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		<title>By: Rob Cluett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Cluett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Paranoid,

It&#039;s because the IP you&#039;re coming from which may in fact be a proxy has something whacking their servers.  If you are an Enterprise of 300,000+ people it could be anyone of them constantly requesting somethign from google too quickly which does in fact make it look like a virus.  You need to track down the offending devices in your network and get them to stop :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Paranoid,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s because the IP you&#8217;re coming from which may in fact be a proxy has something whacking their servers.  If you are an Enterprise of 300,000+ people it could be anyone of them constantly requesting somethign from google too quickly which does in fact make it look like a virus.  You need to track down the offending devices in your network and get them to stop <img src='http://www.sciencetext.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That could be it. It certainly reduces my allegiance to Google as a search engine...I might switch to SearchMash permanently...oh, hold on wait a minute! That&#039;s Google too, you say? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That could be it. It certainly reduces my allegiance to Google as a search engine&#8230;I might switch to SearchMash permanently&#8230;oh, hold on wait a minute! That&#8217;s Google too, you say? <img src='http://www.sciencetext.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rob watts</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 07:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be right David. In the example I saw yesterday on blogsearch there was no captcha.

In the past people used WPG to scrape serps or xenu or other similar progs to snatch google data. The thing is that a determined scraper would be a little more sophisitcanted and use a tool that spoofed user agents and used proxified IP&#039;s so I dont quite get where they fet off on what for me is prolly related to some general IP based abuse capture.

Take BT or NTL or any big UK ISP as an example and you&#039;ll notice that they pretty much randomise IP ranges for their users. I think google might have a little aspect of their scripts that identifies say the st 3 aspects of the IP adress eg 192.168.2. and then wildcards everything else. So, any user with that IP will get hammered for a short period. This is because a user on the same IP range could have been abusing the resource so they decide to take action. Yet the reality is that they penalise everyone as a result, or at least a huge number of people, which is kinda sucky and bad for them too as it just weakens the user experience and makes them think damn you google. As for that spyware virus message that&#039;s even worse cos if anything it&#039;ll just alarm users into thinking they have a problem...&quot;ooh Google told me I might have a virus...it must be true &quot; kinda thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be right David. In the example I saw yesterday on blogsearch there was no captcha.</p>
<p>In the past people used WPG to scrape serps or xenu or other similar progs to snatch google data. The thing is that a determined scraper would be a little more sophisitcanted and use a tool that spoofed user agents and used proxified IP&#8217;s so I dont quite get where they fet off on what for me is prolly related to some general IP based abuse capture.</p>
<p>Take BT or NTL or any big UK ISP as an example and you&#8217;ll notice that they pretty much randomise IP ranges for their users. I think google might have a little aspect of their scripts that identifies say the st 3 aspects of the IP adress eg 192.168.2. and then wildcards everything else. So, any user with that IP will get hammered for a short period. This is because a user on the same IP range could have been abusing the resource so they decide to take action. Yet the reality is that they penalise everyone as a result, or at least a huge number of people, which is kinda sucky and bad for them too as it just weakens the user experience and makes them think damn you google. As for that spyware virus message that&#8217;s even worse cos if anything it&#8217;ll just alarm users into thinking they have a problem&#8230;&#8221;ooh Google told me I might have a virus&#8230;it must be true &#8221; kinda thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencetext.com/google-error-tests-for-bots.html/comment-page-1#comment-5645</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you are, maybe you&#039;re not...maybe they know all about you already and simply hide that error message so you don&#039;t get suspicious. Just because you&#039;re not paranoid does not mean they aren&#039;t not out to get you anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you are, maybe you&#8217;re not&#8230;maybe they know all about you already and simply hide that error message so you don&#8217;t get suspicious. Just because you&#8217;re not paranoid does not mean they aren&#8217;t not out to get you anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Hsien Lei</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencetext.com/google-error-tests-for-bots.html/comment-page-1#comment-5643</link>
		<dc:creator>Hsien Lei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never seen that before. Guess I&#039;m just an upstanding Internetizen. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never seen that before. Guess I&#8217;m just an upstanding Internetizen. <img src='http://www.sciencetext.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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